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【防衛】4周について討論

1:mizuki :

2014/02/06 (Thu) 21:49:46

何でも自由に語りましょう
2:mizuki :

2014/02/06 (Thu) 21:52:51

w1のポイントはこぼさない事?
w2のポイントもこばさない事?
3:mizuki :

2014/02/07 (Fri) 10:45:03

昨日の結果を記事におこしたお
4:mizuki :

2014/02/07 (Fri) 10:47:06

本日以降の職構成

青と緑GuHu2、BrHu1、FoTe1 紫GuHu2、BrHu1、RaTe1(神)


5:mizuki :

2014/02/07 (Fri) 10:48:23

本日のwave構成

w1:全員前へ出て下がり目にGu一人待機

※注意点としてはダガン選手の取りこぼしに注意
6:mizuki :

2014/02/07 (Fri) 10:49:15

w2:全員前へ出て下がり目にGu一人待機

※注意点としてはかまきりを飛ばさないようにする
7:mizuki :

2014/02/07 (Fri) 10:55:59

w3:ここが個人的には一番の難ポイントだと思う
   昨日の反省会の結果では3人(Br、Gu、テク)が真ん中あたりで待機、1人(Gu)は塔前
   足が遅いブリやエルアーダは積極的に前にいるGuがつぶす
   グワが湧いたらどっちに湧いたかをすぐにRaTe神に伝え、どこでもいいからWBあててもらう

※注意点はなんだろう・・・
8:mizuki :

2014/02/07 (Fri) 10:59:50

w4:基本はサッカーしましょう
   ただし1PTは始めの塔処理が終わったら、2番目に湧く塔をスルーして最終湧き地点へごー
   湧き地点でのリスキル狙い

※注意点としては、最終湧きが緑だった場合、湧きが広くゴルドラ多めな気がするので
 1PTだけでは処理しきれない可能性大
 なのでGu1とテク1がヘルプに行く感じにしようかな(固定がいいと思うので、私とミアータさんで)
 これが上手くできればそこそこ短縮になりそう
9:mizuki :

2014/02/07 (Fri) 11:02:45

w5:塔前待機ですが、ラグネ湧き以外の塔は前に行ってもいいかもしれない
   ただ真ん中あたりにも湧くので、2:2で前行く人と待機で分ける感じかな

※注意点はなんでしょうね・・・
10:mizuki :

2014/02/07 (Fri) 11:04:33

最終:ビブが飛んで塔前に来るまで待ちましょう。WBは足⇒ケツ⇒足ループで、飛ぶ前に入れてもいいかも
   飛んできたビブを塔前でしゅんころする為、一旦全員で紫前に集合ですな
   その後の湧きは臨機応変に対応

※注意点としては特に無いような気がする
11:mizuki :

2014/02/07 (Fri) 11:09:46

全体を通して注意すること
・こぼしを出来るだけ無くす
・序盤は真ん中目に陣取っているGuがこぼしをちゃんとチェック。またテクはラフォでの小型殲滅も
・カタコンの使用タイミングはBrで決めとくといいかもしれない
・ゾンディ精度上げてすり抜け減らそう

他なんかあるっけ?
12:ヒカルちゃん :

2014/02/07 (Fri) 20:50:00

>>11
きっとパンツが足りない
13:禿げ :

2014/02/07 (Fri) 22:18:38

>>11
Brはオロチ用意
14:穴久保 :

2014/02/09 (Sun) 23:57:36

フレンドに参考にしてるサイト聞いて、読んでて面白かったから貼っとくよ
http://www61.atwiki.jp/bluemonday_ship04/pages/18.html
15:ミアータ :

2014/02/10 (Mon) 00:33:40

>14
おお、敵の配置MAPが!
こういうのすっごく欲しかったんですよね、印刷してモニタ横にでも貼っておこう…
16:Lenon :

2014/02/10 (Mon) 03:32:59

昨日4周した時の録画で早かった回の置いときますねー
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Opf3PB7eAg

暇が多かった回だからあまり参考にならないかも…
17:mizuki :

2014/02/10 (Mon) 14:23:12

レノンさんとこの動画見たけど、圧倒的に差があるように感じたのは
やっぱりw5だよね

ここの速さがだいぶ違う気がする
18:mizuki :

2014/02/10 (Mon) 14:49:56

動画見たのと、昨日の経験含めてこんな感じかなというたたきを
・PT構成は昨日のまま
・w1,2は特に変更なし
・w3は3人が前、Gu1が真ん中ちょい後ろくらいに待機
 カルターゴ処理は待機Gu1が行う、中腹から湧くゴルドラは前線3名で処理
・w4はサッカーで固定ハルPT&2名で最終湧き地点でリスキル狙い
 残り6人は2番目の塔処理と、終わったら最終塔へのヘルプ
・w5はラグネ塔以外は前で処理。かまきりこぼし注意
 ラグネ処理完了後前へ行きましょう
・最終はどうしようか? 動画では降りたとこでしゅんころしてたけど、今のやり方だと
 塔前までジャンプさせてそこで処理。処理時間的にはほとんど差がないようには感じた
 むしろ問題は、ビブ以外の湧き対応に時間かかってる感じですな
19:帰宅したマン :

2014/02/11 (Tue) 18:06:56

テリバにあまり頼らない火力押し https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhRoLEY5M9w#t=13
全体マップをよく見せてくれる。わきの予測?か ぼっち湧きの処理のタイム短縮かの
20:帰宅したマン :

2014/02/12 (Wed) 00:23:58

w5のラグネのやつ。コメントではウォークアイで足止めできるとあり(本当かどうか知らない)
テリバをGuの範囲でカバーってところかね
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22863606
21:mizuki :

2014/02/14 (Fri) 14:10:55

今日の豚小屋の記事に防衛7分台の動画上がってたね
正直比較してみて特に違うのは、w3とw5だけだったような気がする
ビブ処理はほとんど差がないし、3,5をなんとかすれば余裕だぜ

早く練習させてください!!!!
22:mizuki :

2014/02/17 (Mon) 15:14:08

今日の4周チャレンジはみなさん参加できるのかな?
21時っていう少し早い時間ですが。
参加できなさそうな人はここに書いておいてくれると助かります。
23:mizuki :

2014/02/17 (Mon) 15:15:49

本日の4周チャレンジについて1点変更をば。

前回チャレンジの際にw5のラグネの足止めが出来たようなので
今日からそれを基本構成としてチャレンジしてみましょう。

降りてくる位置を把握しておかないとだね!
ひろ氏が貼ってくれたの参考に見ておいてねー
24:あふろ :

2014/02/18 (Tue) 07:56:47

すまん昨日完全に忘れてた 11時からファルスいく気満々だった
ほんとうにすまん。。。
25:mizuki :

2014/02/19 (Wed) 22:55:41

今週の予告の23時は全部チャレンジする予定なので、
メンバーの人で出れない場合は連絡くださいな~
26:あふろ :

2014/02/20 (Thu) 02:37:38

ちょっと生活めちゃくちゃで参加できるか微妙なんで僕クビor補欠でお願い
27:ミアータ :

2014/02/20 (Thu) 12:23:32

忙しいのは仕方ないですもんねえ
残念ですけど
28:ミアータ :

2014/02/20 (Thu) 12:37:54

あ、あと昨日録画してみましたがどうしますかねこれ
私がうろうろしたりキョロキョロしたりボーッとしてたりする動画なんですけど
30分で3.5Gくらいあるんですがw
29:Lenon :

2014/02/20 (Thu) 12:46:42

ミアータさん、エンコードしないと!
30:mizuki :

2014/02/20 (Thu) 13:18:58

見てみたい!
客観視したらどうなるかが気になるんだぜ
31:ヒカルちゃん :

2014/02/22 (Sat) 00:29:56

(´・ω・`)4周きたわ~みんなおつお~
32:中央の何者か :

2014/02/22 (Sat) 00:57:59

4周おつかれー そろそろプルミケ・ガルミラくれません?
33:mizuki :

2014/02/22 (Sat) 00:58:05

みんなご協力ありがとう!!
達成感すごいですな
34:HaL. :

2014/02/22 (Sat) 01:07:25

祝4周達成記念レス(おつかれさまでした)
今度はここから更に最適化&安定化させる作業ですなぁ…
まだまだ縮められると思いますし今後もよろしくおねがいしまし
35:ミアータ :

2014/02/23 (Sun) 07:47:31

4周の時も動画撮ってみてたのでエンコして上げてみました
http://kie.nu/1Hkw
パスはmag
長いので結構重いです、ご注意
ダメ出しとかなんか気になる動きとかあったら指摘お願いします!



優しめに
36:mizuki :

2014/02/23 (Sun) 16:21:45

ミアータさん
超GJです
見てみましたけど画質いいですね!
37:中央のPP枯渇マン :

2014/02/23 (Sun) 20:57:05

動画ドモです。 PP枯渇しないっていいですね。
こっちはやり方悪いせいか、PPコンバのフル活用です。
WB1 第3陣WBありがとねー(`・ω・´)ゞ

動画はもうちょっと余裕が出てきたら考えておきます。
プレイに支障が出ないか気になる点なんで
こっちの環境→http://mikan4uma.blog.fc2cn.com/blog-entry-13.html
38:mizuki :

2014/02/23 (Sun) 22:25:17

荒らしておきますね
39:中央のPP枯渇マン :

2014/02/23 (Sun) 23:23:08

おう コメントあざーっす
40:mesa :

2014/02/24 (Mon) 00:46:19

自分のテリバのやり方について、ちーと質問   
場面としてはw4の第3陣とw5の第3陣(ここは紫塔の人かな)
w4について
  集める箇所が2箇所合って、今カンランでHit数稼いでるから
 わきが早い右側から反対側のテリバ位置に近づけているけど
 これって迷惑?
  今後リンドウに変更する場合があるなら最初の位置から動かさない
 ようにするけど

w5について
  w4の第3陣と同じようなわき(ゴドラ湧き)で、1つのテリバでは
 集めきれないから、ここもわきの早い右から少しずつ反対側に寄せてるけど
 これ必要?イメージ的にはシュンカの移動の幅で合わせてるつもりだけど
 
 それよりも 右と左の2箇所(カンランが届くような範囲)でタゲ取りしてもらって
 戻ってきたのを集めてフィニッシュのほうがいいかね

参加させてもらってる身ですがちょっと気になったので書き込みました
41:mizuki :

2014/02/24 (Mon) 10:10:00

>>40
私Br担当じゃないので確定的な事言えないんだけど、w4はカタコン使う為に
カンラン⇒カタコンの流れだと思うので特に変更はいらないように感じます。

参加させてもらってる身というけど、アナタいないと成り立たないと思うよ!!
42:ヒカルちゃん :

2014/02/26 (Wed) 00:26:21

4周行けんかった、悔しい
43:mesa :

2014/02/26 (Wed) 01:03:17

わるい。まじめに今日ダメダメだった   今コメント付きで編集してる。
ここまでひどいの今までになかったぐらいに。(メンタルよわすぎ

一応あげるけど いじめないで;
44:HaL. :

2014/02/26 (Wed) 01:42:37

今回は回線落ちっていう事故もあったから仕方ないのう…

ラグネジャンプも対処出来てたし次はいけるやろ!
45:穴久保 :

2014/02/26 (Wed) 09:55:44

630とか全く見なかったのになんで昨日ばかり...済まぬ済まぬぅ_(:3 ∠ )_
46:mizuki :

2014/02/26 (Wed) 11:13:25

これはKMRSNの策略ですね
うちの身内部屋にはPがいるのにこんな仕打ちされるとは・・・

気持ち切り替えて次がんばりましょう!
47:mesa :

2014/02/26 (Wed) 12:37:33

火曜の防衛上げた。
UPリスト→http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYEUMxHBzZ6Cv7seuRYbLug/videos

改善点とか やり方戻さないといけない部分が多数 誤字はあるかも
次頑張ります
48:mizuki :

2014/02/26 (Wed) 18:52:17

>>47
撮影GJ
見たけど画質いいですね!一応ブログにうpしてる旨をちらっとだけ書いておきました。
恥ずかしいのでリンクは貼ってないですが。

何もアクシデント無ければ次回は4周行けそうですね!
49:ミアータ :

2014/02/26 (Wed) 23:25:20

>>47
動画ありがとうございます
私と仕事量がぜんぜん違う…そりゃPPも切れますよね
色々参考にしてやってみます!
他が疎かにならない程度に!
50:あふろ :

2014/02/27 (Thu) 17:03:48

ひろっていうおじさんから聞いた!4周おめっとー!!(遅
51:mizuki :

2014/02/28 (Fri) 00:24:09

>>50
誰ですか?
52:mesa :

2014/02/28 (Fri) 01:16:24

w5の処理について(まだわきの順番把握できてないからなにいってるんだ状態かも知れないが
 紫に第2陣が来ない場合、紫全員援護に回すのはどうだろう。

 第3陣(最終湧き?、紫だとゴドラ)が紫以外の等に湧いたらそのまま援護。
                   紫に湧いたら紫塔まえで処理(ゴドラだから足速いし)

理由は第2陣が来ない時、紫がかなりヒマ  これまで第3陣のゴドラを待っていたけど
 TeとBrだけだと処理が安定しない。結局時間がかかって援護が到着するイメージ
 なら、援護に行って最後はとう前でまとめて倒す的な?
変なコト言っていたらごめん。

木曜夜の防衛の動画4窓にしてみた(木曜1~3週目と火曜3週目)
違いがわかりやすいかな? 今エンコ中(1920x1080だから時間かかりそう (´・ω・`)
53:ミアータ :

2014/02/28 (Fri) 12:54:38

みんな結構そうだと思うんですけど、自塔の処理に集中しちゃうと最終便に確信が持てなくなるんですよね
あともし塔前処理するとなるとぼっち湧き対策で数人前に出ると良さそうでしょうか
54:mesa :

2014/02/28 (Fri) 13:27:05

動画あげ終わった  →http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYEUMxHBzZ6Cv7seuRYbLug/videos
55:mizuki :

2014/02/28 (Fri) 15:33:15

>>54
アブダク動画みたんだけど、やっぱこのゲーム全然同期とれてないよね・・・
私が覚えている範囲の動きと敵の位置と全然違ってるわ

w5の追加湧きについて、何回どこに来るかってのが多分みんなフワっとしてるんだよね
なのでヘルプ判断が難しいのかなと。
次の時にちょっと打ち合わせてみましょうか。
56:mesa :

2014/03/02 (Sun) 00:30:48

4周おつオー
前もって連絡。 8日土曜いません。9日日曜は夜ならinしてるかも、疲れていたら寝てます
57:mizuki :

2014/03/02 (Sun) 00:31:06

4周2回目おつう!
もう余裕っすねwwwwwwwwwww
58:mesa :

2014/03/02 (Sun) 07:59:47

4周防衛動画あげといたでー http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-juRbOODoDE&feature=youtu.be
59:mizuki :

2014/03/02 (Sun) 15:21:26

>>58
GJですよ~

安定してきましたな
60:穴久保 :

2014/03/02 (Sun) 16:47:58

ミスかと思ったら画面分割動画でワロタ
目が追いつかないむぅ(ヽ'ω`)

>>58
編集うpお疲れですよ~
61:mesa :

2014/03/02 (Sun) 22:05:44

4分割だと1回のエンコで終わるからという編集側の都合() メインPC1個だからのー
62:ミアータ :

2014/03/02 (Sun) 23:56:56

私も一応撮ってたので上げときますね
http://kie.nu/1IAg
相変わらず長いです、重いです
見返すとちょくちょく判断ミスや迷いがありますね
63:mizuki :

2014/03/03 (Mon) 15:20:50

>>62
ミアータさんもGJですよ~
(まだ見てないけど)

こうなると青塔視点も見てみたいね!ヒカルさん!
64:穴久保 :

2014/03/03 (Mon) 19:16:12

一個だけテストがてらうp
よく分からず限定公開にしたけど見れるのかな
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCEm1Wt4NdbvvZQ7cwWso0l2Gcktu4M3W

ヒカルさん視点(´・ω・`)あく
65:mizuki :

2014/03/03 (Mon) 19:55:01

>>64
超GJですよー
泥人形多いっすね!!
66:mesa :

2014/03/03 (Mon) 20:25:11

w6やけど ビブラス演出中にPBチェインとかいいかもねー  やってる組はあったりする
67:ミアータ :

2014/03/03 (Mon) 21:23:45

>>64
乙です!
ビブの時ザンバとゾンディでよくわからないですねw

やっぱりyoutubeとかのほうが見やすいですよね、わかってるんですけどよくわからなくて…
68:mesa :

2014/03/04 (Tue) 00:21:50

4周おつかれー  動画編集はなにか行ってくれんとこのまま4窓ですので(楽だから

にしてもw4の第三陣もれるのー なんでやろ
69:ミアータ :

2014/03/04 (Tue) 00:35:16

今日はキツイかなあと思ったけど行けましたね、おつです!

あれこぼしたくないですよねえ、最初のゾンディではまとまってると思うんですが…
70:mesa :

2014/03/04 (Tue) 01:10:28

だれかバインドバレット?撮ってたりする? 
3週目の7:31の赤いゴドラの挙動が気になった(いま編集中です
71:mesa :

2014/03/04 (Tue) 01:15:43

連投スマンがミスった?という4週目が一番早かったです。
日付が変わる前には動画いつものところにUPしときます
72:mizuki :

2014/03/04 (Tue) 15:14:43

>>71
撮影GJなんですけど、穴久保氏も言っていた通り4分割じゃないほうが
嬉しかったりします・・・
4つもあるとどこ見ていいのかわかんなくなっちゃう
73:mesa :

2014/03/04 (Tue) 18:57:41

了解 ただ自分のマシンでエンコ中(ソフトAviUlt)にpso2ができない
(できるけど エンコをしてもAviUltがエラーをはく
ので、UPするのは厳密には見ないけど、一番早い奴と動きに変化があった奴にします。
今回だと4週目とラグネがわいた2週目かな?
AviUltとQuick Sync Videoを使えるといいんだけど知識がガガ

詳しい人 何かアドバイスをくれると
録画(ロイロゲームレコーダー)→編集で分割するのが面倒だから4つの動画ファイルで保存
(you tube にあげる動画は15分いない2GB以下らしい)→権利表記とエンコをAviUlt→UP

>>67
youtubeうpの参考にしたもの http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm20450245
74:ミアータ :

2014/03/04 (Tue) 19:46:25

>>73
おお、ありがとうございます。見て後でちょっとやってみよう

あと今日どうもaviutlがエラー出てエンコできないなあと思ったらPSO2起動してたからですかね…
動画と音声が別ファイルになっちゃう
75:mesa :

2014/03/05 (Wed) 03:12:27

動画UPに関して たぶんqsvの導入に成功したんでエンコ時間が大幅に短縮されました。(3分の1くらい?)
たぶん1窓UPのモチベが保てそうです(1周の動画エンコが4~5分で終わるようになりました)

ただ 画質音質等に変化があるそうなのでまた確認お願いします。
76:ミアータ :

2014/03/05 (Wed) 06:41:07

色々練習がてら面白いかなーと思って3人の動画をまとめてみました
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuu8fHLlWao

youtubeに上げた時になんか画質がすごく荒くなっちゃったんですけど、これどうすればいいんでしょうか…
77:ミアータ :

2014/03/05 (Wed) 06:57:03

あ、単純にプレーヤーの設定の問題でした
すません
78:Lepi :

2014/03/05 (Wed) 17:27:22

今日の防衛は22時とのことですが、帰宅が21:30過ぎるかもしれません><
もし間に合わなさそうならあとで早目に連絡します。
79:Lepi :

2014/03/05 (Wed) 20:30:31

人身事故あああぁぁぁ…
80:mizuki :

2014/03/05 (Wed) 21:00:49

>>79
間に合う?22時
81:Lepi :

2014/03/05 (Wed) 21:06:19

多分30分には家に着けるけど、ダウンロードの時間含めると45分ギリギ
リかな…
82:mizuki :

2014/03/05 (Wed) 21:08:18

>>81
メンツには入れておくのでがんばってね!
83:mizuki :

2014/03/06 (Thu) 15:28:59

昨日なんだかグダグダだったね・・・

謎の違和感・・・!!
そして消失するB-31

次回リベンジしましょー!
84:mizuki :

2014/03/07 (Fri) 18:29:44

今日は23時から防衛戦ですよー
前回のリベンジしましょうね!!

参加できなそうって人いる??
85:Lepi :

2014/03/07 (Fri) 21:55:15

帰宅が45分くらいになります…
86:mizuki :

2014/03/10 (Mon) 13:08:01

今日も明日も23時に防衛戦あるんだね
みなさん参加は大丈夫そうですかー?

87:ミアータ :

2014/03/10 (Mon) 19:08:42

行きますよ!
リベンジリベンジ
88:Lepi :

2014/03/12 (Wed) 21:02:21

土曜日曜、友人の結婚式及びPSO2オフ会につき不在です。
日曜夜は間に合うかも知れないけども…!
89:mizuki :

2014/03/13 (Thu) 11:14:45

>>88
あらま・・・
青のTeRa担当はヒカルさんにお願いするしか無さそうですね!!
でも今だいぶ余裕が出てきているので不慣れな部分があってもなんとかなるはず・・・!
90:mizuki :

2014/03/15 (Sat) 19:37:12

今日の21時ちょっと参加無理かもです

放置のままで戻ってこれない可能性大
91:mizuki :

2014/03/16 (Sun) 22:09:07

TeRa二人間に合うの?
92:mizuki :

2014/03/20 (Thu) 10:27:46

今週は少な目&おかしな時間のがありますね。
次は明日金曜23時ですがみなさん参加大丈夫ですかー?

できなさそうな人は予め連絡もらえると嬉しいですぞ。
93:mizuki :

2014/03/21 (Fri) 21:14:35

ミアータさん今日いけるの?
94:Lepi :

2014/03/21 (Fri) 22:24:38

今日帰れません、すみません
95:mizuki :

2014/03/21 (Fri) 22:25:07

>94
まじですか
了解ですー
96:mizuki :

2014/03/22 (Sat) 00:45:04

>94
一応4周いけたでー
97:mizuki :

2014/03/24 (Mon) 14:04:34

>mesa氏
ブログ記事につべのアドレス貼っちゃった!

>みんなへ
名前とか伏せてないけど気にしない!
98:mesa :

2014/03/25 (Tue) 02:40:28

俺は動画公開をついたーで叫んでるけど(自動
何かあったら言って
99:ミアータ :

2014/03/26 (Wed) 14:08:50

(ヤバい)
100:mizuki :

2014/03/26 (Wed) 14:18:36

本日の予告
20時と22時なんだけど、22時の方みんな参加できるの?
ちなみに私は20時も多分行ける

行ける人挙手
101:mesa :

2014/03/26 (Wed) 14:33:11

両方おk
102:mizuki :

2014/03/26 (Wed) 14:34:25

>101
mesa氏返答サンクス
103:mesa :

2014/03/26 (Wed) 14:38:26

あと忘れてた  昨日流れてきた侵入のめも  twitpic.com/dzct7v
104:ヒカル :

2014/03/26 (Wed) 14:42:13

>>100 (´・ω・`)行けるわ
105:mizuki :

2014/03/26 (Wed) 14:44:36

>104
ヒカル氏返答サンクス
106:mizuki :

2014/03/26 (Wed) 14:47:34

>>103
これはいいですな!印刷して持って帰ろう
107:mizuki :

2014/03/26 (Wed) 15:40:21

mesa氏が貼ってくれた配置図を見ると、2枚バリケードがあって、このバリケードが
壊れない内は中に侵入されないんだよね?(かまきり除く)

したら1枚目のバリケードの外側(北側)に人数集中させて中にGuを少数だけ配置
すれば完封ってできないかな?
108:ミアータ :

2014/03/26 (Wed) 19:39:21

なんとか22時には間に合いそうですけど、20時のメンバーでそのまま埋まっちゃうとかだったら野良で行きますね
109:mizuki :

2014/03/26 (Wed) 20:49:31

>>108
何人か入れ替わるので枠はあけておくよ
 ありがとうは?
110:mesa :

2014/03/26 (Wed) 21:15:46

動画エンコ終わったら戻ります。たぶん21:40ぐらい
111:mesa :

2014/03/26 (Wed) 22:41:14

1つだけエンコうまく行った。とりあえず公開しといた
112:穴久保 :

2014/03/27 (Thu) 10:37:32

とりあえず昨晩一周目の壁壊れなかったやつだけ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCVuM0AQDPI

(´・ω・`)湧き位置確認程度に
113:mesa :

2014/03/27 (Thu) 11:47:34

112と同じやつ。全域MAP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nIHPepn4zM
114:mizuki :

2014/03/27 (Thu) 12:42:21

>>113
またブログにリンクのっけたんだけど問題ないよね?

>>112
 かぶとむしさんもサンクス!後で見てみるわー
115:mesa :

2014/03/27 (Thu) 12:59:16

>>114
自分は「こいつへたすぎwwww」ぐらいじぇねかの。
チャットの吹き出しさえなければ、名前とか隠すのは簡単とだけ言っておく(たぶん
116:mizuki :

2014/03/27 (Thu) 14:04:36

>>115
いや別に無理して隠さなくていんじゃね?(適当)
それに手間かけるくらいならアドいこうず!
117:ミアータ(嘘) :

2014/03/27 (Thu) 15:39:03

>>112
カタコン使いにくそうね。こっちの防衛戦はBrよりもGuのがいいかもしれん。
とはいえ一人もBrがいない状況は辛そうなので、継続してBrで来てもらうのがいいかもね。

流石オロチ
118:mizuki :

2014/03/27 (Thu) 15:39:25

>>117
あっ
119:mesa :

2014/03/27 (Thu) 18:09:38

4周目指して色々やってる募集主の参加した時の情報、チャットログ垂れ流し

結果→壁生存2回、壁破壊1回 計3周。1周10分組の場所も出てきたみたい

・構成 Gu2 Br8 Ra1 Fo1
   (今回はFo1のテリバでタイムに差が出ると思わないのでFo1、Gu2で核処理
・W3からだね侵食核でるの
・W4は確か下のほうに核でるから 僕緑と白いってるね
・ウォルがーだが一番壁HPもってくから、最初ヘイトとって壁から剥がしてー
・Foいないばあいウォクラゲーだよね

・Brは全員ウォクラもってる感じ
120:mesa :

2014/03/27 (Thu) 18:38:13

追記:http://togetter.com/li/369351
121:mesa :

2014/03/28 (Fri) 00:53:25

3/28の防衛:特に1周目で自分がイメージした湧き。動画の方なるべくそんな感じで動いた。

動画4つぐらい見て思ったことを書いた(w4の初期脇まで右側の処理的な?
w1-1(2-3直線→座標2と3の枠線)
湧き:D2区画 or 2-3直線(ゴドラ面倒,カタコン?) or レアなケースで左と右に別れない
   2-3直線もあったはず。
       テリバやるときのイメージ
       (D区画で自軸ゾンディ、直線はカンラン・ヒール戻ってきたやつをまとめる

w1-2
湧き:たぶんD2区画に湧く

w2-1
湧き:たぶん 左中右の3箇所のうちの2箇所に2匹 or 2-3ラインにズラッと

w2-2
湧き:D2区画に多数

w2-3?
湧き:B2区画側 or ぽつんと少数湧く or D2区画に多数 的なイメージ

w3
湧き:2-3ライン → 何かがキーになって?亀 → その際中にB列の2-3ラインに敵
  →亀処理後再び2-3ライン(B、Dのみまたは両方に沸く可能性?)
   → その後再度2-3ライン or B2 C3 D2に各4:2:4体のゴドラ?

w4
湧き:便器(壁に近い外側、自分のカンランだとワープ前に倒せない)+D2区画に3体
   (+SUMOU)→ 雑魚処理後敵複数
              →この後複雑な感じがする(動画あんまよく見れてない


122:mesa :

2014/03/28 (Fri) 04:19:17

>121
ごめ  2-3じゃなくて3-4だね。今気がついた
27日の1週目  http://youtu.be/70pjWawTgqI
123:mizuki :

2014/03/28 (Fri) 10:19:18

>>みなさま
 ワタクシもしかしたら土曜いないかもしれないです。
 朝から一泊でお出かけするかもなので日曜の夜には帰ってきているはずです。
 
 まだ行くかどうか決めていないですが、確定したらまた報告しますです。
124:mizuki :

2014/03/28 (Fri) 18:09:54

そーいや今日侵入じゃなくて、襲来のほう23時からあるんだよね
すっかり見落としてたわ

参加できなさそうな人は早めに連絡くださいねー
125:ミアータ :

2014/03/28 (Fri) 21:14:10

今日は行けます
126:mizuki :

2014/03/28 (Fri) 21:38:38

>>125
ナイス連絡
127:穴久保 :

2014/03/28 (Fri) 21:46:15

すみません青今日私抜きでお願いします
部屋にオロチ飾っておきますんで(´・ω・`)
128:mizuki :

2014/03/28 (Fri) 22:08:34

>>127
 オロチください
129:ミアータ :

2014/03/29 (Sat) 21:47:51

今日は間に合います
130:mizuki :

2014/03/29 (Sat) 22:17:20

>>129
ナイス間に合う
131:mizuki :

2014/03/29 (Sat) 22:27:13

セイルさんはどうなんだろうか・・・
45分までに連絡ない場合、違う人入れるのでー
132:ミアータ :

2014/03/30 (Sun) 21:57:04

今日もありましたよね
間に合います
133:mizuki :

2014/03/30 (Sun) 22:33:19

>>132
こまめな連絡助かります!
134:mesa :

2014/03/31 (Mon) 13:45:30

他の侵入に参加  左はテリバいたほうが良さそう。敵の湧き多いけど集めやすいって
135:mizuki :

2014/03/31 (Mon) 14:09:01

>>134
 やっぱり左のが湧きが単純?なのかな?
 左側にミアータさんかセイルさんにテリバお願いしてみようかしら
136:mesa :

2014/03/31 (Mon) 22:50:24

侵食核  pic.twitter.com/nr72OXUKEq
w4 pic.twitter.com/yWI4UBCdFp

w5・6が欲しい人
137:mizuki :

2014/04/02 (Wed) 15:14:01

次回の侵入から以下の点で変更があります

・PT編成の変更
 ①mizuki、ひかる、みあーた、unk
 ②ハル、ハゲ、けい、めさ
 ③セイル、のわーる、ひろ、誰か
 侵食核処理を円滑に進める為に一つにまとめます。位置把握も容易に。
138:mizuki :

2014/04/02 (Wed) 15:15:42

侵入の時の変更点について

・侵食核処理はmizukiPTで対応
・核処理の基本はおれとひかる、フォローにunk
・フォローが必要な場合はババーン
・前線の配置も決めておく
・右端と左端はゾンディ1と他3 真ん中2名+おれひかる
・ボス対応も決めておく
※要相談
139:mizuki :

2014/04/02 (Wed) 15:16:35

って感じで次回からやってみようと思うので、みなさんお忙しい中すみませんが
次回開催時には早めに集合してもらえると助かります。
緊急30分前がいいかなー
140:mizuki :

2014/04/03 (Thu) 11:56:03

今日の22時間に合わないかもです。
事前連絡はしますが、間に合わない場合は私抜きでやっちゃってください。
141:ヒカル :

2014/04/03 (Thu) 12:16:48

>>140(´・ω・`)大丈夫間に合うから
142:mizuki :

2014/04/03 (Thu) 18:58:35

続報です。
最速で20時半退社予定でしたが、それも叶わない模様・・・
今時点で間に合う確率は30%程度だと思われ。またきたまえ!
143:mizuki :

2014/04/03 (Thu) 20:30:46

はいアウトー

私参加できませんので上手くやってくださいなー
144:mesa :

2014/04/04 (Fri) 01:54:25

テリバ入れた時の
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZPq2xBIKGvkpmOuE0OrBnIcaKw2bwKgb
ついでに右のカルの位置

w1は1箇所しかあつめれないので 中央寄りのゴドラはだれかお願い(´・ω・`)

145:Lepi :

2014/04/04 (Fri) 22:07:54

本日は職場の歓送迎会のため、23時には帰れません><
146:mizuki :

2014/04/04 (Fri) 22:19:47

>>145
あら了解~
レア出しておきますね!
147:mesa :

2014/04/05 (Sat) 11:46:03

ちらちら4周組出てきた
youtu.be/69FXVS7zkhM
148:mesa :

2014/04/05 (Sat) 12:08:10

もう一個(なんか荒れてるけど
nico.ms/sm22576250
149:mesa :

2014/04/05 (Sat) 12:13:01

>>148
間違えた・・・襲来ですた
150:ミアータ :

2014/04/05 (Sat) 19:24:29

今日20時なんでしたっけ
私はやっぱり無理だったようです
151:mizuki :

2014/04/05 (Sat) 19:38:35

>>150
(´;ω;`)
152:穴久保 :

2014/04/07 (Mon) 20:45:00

昨晩のやつ
1周目:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvjPM_Q3Tvs
2周目:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF7w3Jh-Q24
3週目:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMeQSECmKW8

2,3週目のペースなら行けるのかな?
153:mizuki :

2014/04/07 (Mon) 20:54:18

>>152
超GJ
まだ時間あるし見てみよう

アナタ22時間に合うよね?
154:mesa :

2014/04/09 (Wed) 22:03:10

今飲み会おわた アップでーとやってない。にんずうからはずぢといて
155:mesa :

2014/04/10 (Thu) 00:16:44

ここまで参加しといてなんややけど侵入4周組から、外しといて…
野良でレベリングすると思う(モチベ低下とかもあるけど
156:mizuki :

2014/04/10 (Thu) 00:35:27

>>155
神がいなくなって4周踏破がますます遠のく・・・
157:mizuki :

2014/04/10 (Thu) 10:33:09

>>155
 あ、一点確認
 侵入だけ外すの?襲来は参加?
158:mesa :

2014/04/10 (Thu) 18:36:15

>>157
襲来は多分参加。侵入に関しても4thのBrが65なるくらいには戻るかも。
クエの敵の経験値でなく、Coで経験値を稼ぐこともできるし
159:mesa :

2014/04/13 (Sun) 23:55:03

>>157
Br65  Hu64  を侵入にだけます() 判断はそっちに任せるよ。
離れて割と間があいた気がするし
160:mizuki :

2014/04/14 (Mon) 11:38:18

>>159
 おかいも。全然戻ってきてもらって無問題ですよー
161:mizuki :

2014/04/14 (Mon) 11:48:42

ちょっとやり方を以下の点で変えてみようかと思ってるんだけどいかがでしょう?
・侵食核処理担当(おれ、ひかる)のどちらか片方はw5と最終は常に後ろで待機
・テク職の人に今はフリーズしてもらってるけど、4周動画見るとやはりゾンディ使用で
 集めてBrが処理という感じでやっているので、もっかいゾンディ試してみない?
・ゾンディはポイントを決めてそこ以外はこぼす前提で進め、こぼし分はGuが処理
・Guはヒールとエルダーを使ってこぼれたゴルドラはコアを優先に、かまきりも飛ばないように
 注意深く対応する
・ゾンディで集めた分の処理は基本Br1で行う
・上記から職配置はテク1、Br1、Gu2 でテクとBrが湧き位置近くでGuは壁と湧き位置の間くらい待機
・テクはTeRaにしちゃうと辛い思いしそうなので、一人RaHu配置(核担当変わってくれるならおれでもおk)

ってとこなんだけどみなさんどう思いますか?
162:穴久保 :

2014/04/17 (Thu) 11:37:26

一ブレイバーの視点から
4周狙いならゾンディ一択だと思います
事前に起きゾンディ有るとBr側もハトウシュンカ待機しやすいですし
フリーズはカマキリやゾンディから逃れたゴルドラ用と割りきってもいいんじゃないかと

ゾンディ役というかパターン覚えたくない人居るなら、俺が挑戦してみてもいいです(´・ω・`)
( /moya セイメイイルメギド試したい)
163:mizuki :

2014/04/17 (Thu) 12:06:05

>>162
 やっぱゾンディだよなぁ
 テク職ばかりだと火力的にしんどいので、もしゾンディを両端に置くなら
 真ん中に右左両方担当するフリーズ役の人にいてもらって、トータルテク職3人ってのも
 ありかもしれないね

 今日の22時にでもやってみましょうか!んじゃ左のゾンディをかぶとむしさんにお願いして
 右のゾンディをミアータさんに、真ん中のフリーズをセイルさんにお願いする感じで

 皆さんにお願いです。
 出来れば意見交換したいです。ただ見るのではなく積極的に書いてくれるとうれしいです
 ギスオンにするつもりは全く無いですが、皆で試行錯誤していきましょう。

 今日の夜にでもここの掲示板見てねって皆さんにまたお願いしますので。
 上記意見に対する意見もどしどしお待ちしてますよ!
164:mizuki :

2014/04/18 (Fri) 13:20:12

昨日の配置はやりやすかったような気はしたけど、タイム的にはなかなか辛い感じでしたねぇ

まぁ侵食核の発生が多かったのと、かまきりこぼしが数回あったので、その辺考慮したら
いつもと同じくらいかしら

ゾンディ役をやった二人とBr役をやった二人にどんな感じだったのか感想聞いてみたいね
ウォークライに頼ってゾンディ無しってのは強硬すぎる?
165:mizuki :

2014/04/18 (Fri) 18:19:10

>>みなさま
 昨日のリザルトにも書きましたが、ワタクシ本日飲み会の為多分22時には間に合わないと思われます。
 あと連絡受けてるところで言うと、keiさんも今日明日といない模様です。
 集めてやるかどうかの判断はヒカルさんにお任せします。

 24時の侵入は多分間に合うと思いますが、その時にいる人数でやるかどうかを決めたいと
 思いますので、wis飛ばします。
166:ヒカル :

2014/04/19 (Sat) 01:11:18

http://bbs11.fc2bbs.net//bbs/img/_808500/808435/full/808435_1397837478.jpg これ使って配置考えようかの
167:mizuki :

2014/04/19 (Sat) 21:18:40

>>166
 いいんじゃないかな?これに配置ハメて基本位置決めちゃえばいいと思う
168:mizuki :

2014/04/19 (Sat) 22:25:36

http://bbs11.fc2bbs.net//bbs/img/_808500/808435/full/808435_1397913936.jpg 配置図完成
169:ミアータ :

2014/04/20 (Sun) 01:23:06

うたた寝しながら今日のやつエンコとアップロードしました
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEF03xPyJ5c
いちおう参考に
170:mesa :

2014/04/20 (Sun) 12:18:28

>>169
お疲れ様
171:ヒカル :

2014/04/20 (Sun) 17:44:25

>>169
これ見るとそれなりにゾンディで集められてますね

左のゾンディ位置調整考えようかの
172:ヒカル :

2014/04/20 (Sun) 22:15:33

http://bbs11.fc2bbs.net//bbs/img/_808500/808435/full/808435_1397999733.jpg ちょい修正版
173:mesa :

2014/04/20 (Sun) 23:43:28

パッドロックWB役からの感覚(まぁ レベリング状態なんであんまイエない立場なんだけど
亀、ウォルガは安定するからいいけど。ラグネとビブは出来たら初期向きを安定させたいかな。
どこまでがその初期向き変更範囲化わからんけど
174:mizuki :

2014/04/21 (Mon) 00:04:22

>>173
 んーと具体的にどっちの足行くかとかって事?
 どっちにどう動くかはヘイト取った人の方に向かってんのかな?

 なんとなくラグネは左前足、ビブは左足に行ってる事多いと思ってるので、一応そっちに
 メシアなりヒールなりするようにしてるけどそれを共通認識にしちゃうでおk?
175:mesa :

2014/04/21 (Mon) 00:17:15

最初のタゲがなんとなく左壁っぽいから、左足は狙ってやってる。
襲来のときはビブに張り付くの俺だけだから、初期向きを塔に、1,2歩く間にロックしてWB
撃つやり方でやってる(ロック可能箇所をできるだけ画面から外して

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23217891/videoExplorer
近いとこんな感じにかわるかな。ヘイトでどうなるかわからんけど、とりあえず
最初降りてきた時の向きを合わせたい(ラグネに関しては一番近い足にうつから、
毎回変わるかもしれん、それは火力側にとってもメンドイと思いたいが
176:mizuki :

2014/04/21 (Mon) 09:48:24

>>175
 なるほど
 という事は、動き固定する為にはWB貼るまではこっちは触らない方がいいのかな?
 
177:mizuki :

2014/04/21 (Mon) 21:13:08

>>ミアータさん
  やっぱ間に合わん?
178:穴久保 :

2014/04/21 (Mon) 21:23:29

22時私抜きでオナシャス
179:mizuki :

2014/04/21 (Mon) 21:30:22

>>178
  まじか
180:ヒカル :

2014/04/21 (Mon) 23:18:26

http://bbs11.fc2bbs.net//bbs/img/_808500/808435/full/808435_1398089906.jpg 暫定湧き位置
181:mizuki :

2014/04/22 (Tue) 10:54:57

>>180
 ぐっじょぶですよー!
182:mizuki :

2014/04/22 (Tue) 11:07:15

ところで皆さんご相談です。
侵入の4周チャレンジやってるじゃないですか。
なんとか現状と変わらない職構成でクリアしようとしていますが、なかなか厳しい状態です。

んで上記とは別でイルメギ侵入ってあるの皆さん知ってると思うんですが、一回こっちも
試してみたいなぁとは思ってるわけですよ。
ただ、ここで方向転換すると若干負けた気になるのは私だけでしょうか・・・

試してみる価値はあると思うので、みんなが嫌じゃなければ一回やってみましょう。
ちなみに職構成は、FoTe*8、BrHu*3、RaHu*1だそうです。
FoTeの必要な物は、セイメイキカミの潜在解放済、闇特化ツリーくらいであとはイルバとイルグラ
が使えれば問題無さそうです。

出来そうな人セイメイ買占めいそげー(ちな昨日時点のセイメイ闇の相場約1M)
183:ひかる :

2014/04/22 (Tue) 12:14:50

>>182
無理にセイメイ作らなくても、持続力考慮してプルミケ持ってる人はプルミケでも良いかもしれん

取り合えず現状でテクでこれる人の点呼取って、やれそうならやってみましょうか
184:mizuki :

2014/04/22 (Tue) 13:05:21

>>183
 多分火力的にだいぶ変わるような気がする
 16%*3HITが1回のテクで変わるので、なかなか厳しいんじゃなかろうか

 まだ今ならセイメイ安いので、今の内に買う事をお勧めしますです。
 ちなみにミアータ先生は先ほど購入&強化完了だって
185:mizuki :

2014/04/25 (Fri) 14:35:17

エレコン&タリスティック&闇ツリーでのイルメギが結構強いので次回の侵入が楽しみ!
しばらく夜の予告防衛戦が無いのでアレだけど

次回は月曜の夜24時に侵入戦があるので、そこでまたイルメギ侵入戦やります
テクやる人は装備とかツリーの準備よろしくねー

神がイルメギやりたいらしいのでRa誰かにチェンジするかもよ!
186:mizuki :

2014/04/28 (Mon) 11:24:20

今日の24時侵入でイルメギ4周チャレンジやりますよ!
職構成は前と変わらずBr3Ra1Fo8でいくので、事前召集とともに職指定致します。

今日は確実に4周行けますな。
187:kei :

2014/04/29 (Tue) 09:25:31

(´・ω・`)
188:ひかる :

2014/04/29 (Tue) 09:42:20

(´・ω・`)
189:mesa :

2014/04/29 (Tue) 17:40:46

(´・ω・`)
190:kei :

2014/04/30 (Wed) 18:01:57

5/1 5/2いません 一応連絡
191:mizuki :

2014/04/30 (Wed) 18:04:42

>>190
 keiさん了解ですよー
 5/1は21時から襲来がありますね。
 でも21時だと人集め難しそうなので、状況次第ですが野良の可能性大
192:mesa :

2014/05/01 (Thu) 21:40:54

今後どうするか知らんが ゾンディテクカスでw4の西脇1つのゾンディで行けたみたい。
たぶん前衛処理
193:mizuki :

2014/05/02 (Fri) 09:55:04

>>192
 なるほど
 w4の処理どうしましょーかねぇ
 前線処理するとなると、昨日やった感じで言うと湧いてない時間がヒマしてるんだよねー
 昨日の例で言うと、真ん中→左→右だったじゃん
 こうなると例えば右の人は左へのフォローにも行けないから、右4人の火力分がまんま
 余る形にはなるなぁと。
 次回ベスト布陣でやれた時に、どこかで一回前線処理はさんでみて、タイムどんくらいなのか
 見て決めてみましょう。
194:mesa :

2014/05/05 (Mon) 02:10:47

今は陰陽師募集の人(というかブルマンの人か) pic.twitter.com/DA7elLer8D
http://togetter.com/li/369351
195:ヒカル :

2014/05/08 (Thu) 09:48:21

>>194
ここ4周板よ?
196:mesa :

2014/05/09 (Fri) 21:11:15

>>195
時間帯をみて察してください。。。リンクも間違ってるし
197:mizuki :

2014/05/13 (Tue) 11:16:53

みなさまー

今日の23時は久々の襲来がいい時間に来ますので、4周チャレンジしませんか?
職構成は以前と同じになりますがいかがでしょう?
事前にwisにてヒアリングするので、人が集まりそうなら開催しますです。
198:mizuki :

2014/05/21 (Wed) 12:43:58

襲来5周ってほんとなのかな?
情報探したけど見つからず

なんかネタ持ってる人教えてくださいなー
199:mesa :

2014/06/17 (Tue) 20:43:35

5週のやつ  6/17 8時の
pic.twitter.com/r6JNp3lSIJ
200:mizuki :

2014/06/18 (Wed) 10:24:49

>>199
まじですか
何故か開けないのでついったーは見れなかったんだけど、動画とかも
もしかしたら上がってんのかな?
5周チャレンジしましょう!!
201:ヒカル :

2014/06/19 (Thu) 19:50:50

(´・ω・`)
202:ヒカル :

2014/06/19 (Thu) 20:10:33

今回の、不特定な第三者による攻撃に関しまして、状況の改善が見込めず、ユーザーの皆様に正常にサービスをご利用いただけない状況を重く受け止め、6月19日19:18に、PSO2のサービスを一時停止させていただきました。
また、ゲームサーバー内のプレイデータに関しては問題ないことを確認しております。
現在も、一刻も早い再開を目指し対応を続けておりますが、IPアドレスの偽装により攻撃元が特定できず、現状では状況改善の見込みに関してもお伝えできない状況です。
サービスの再開時期に関しては続報をお待ちください。
ご迷惑をおかけし誠に申し訳ございませんが、何卒ご了承くださいますようお願い申し上げます。
203:こでんこでんこ(でんこ) :

2014/06/19 (Thu) 20:32:36

(´・ω・`)
204:mizuki :

2014/06/19 (Thu) 20:35:40

これは相当やばいんじゃね
205:kei :

2014/06/20 (Fri) 12:39:09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd78fVOb93I
豚小屋で取り上げられてた襲来5週動画
206:mesa :

2014/06/20 (Fri) 13:03:07

>>200
参加者に知り合いキャラ名が見えたから前知らせたやつだの
207:mizuki :

2014/06/20 (Fri) 13:13:06

>>205
同じく見た事ある名前があったわー
これ見たけど、相当厳しそうですなぁ
体感での処理スピードも段違いに感じたし、湧き位置とかの把握が徹底してるなぁと。
ここを目指すのは難しいと判断し、やろうと思ったけどやめましょう(
208:kei :

2014/06/20 (Fri) 13:19:41

(´・ω・`)たのしいぼうえいせん
209:mizuki :

2014/06/20 (Fri) 13:35:00

サービス再開されないと何から防衛していいのかすら・・・
210:mizuki :

2014/07/15 (Tue) 14:11:49

みなさーん
今日の23時予告防衛戦は久々4周チャレンジする予定ですのでね~
211:ミアータ :

2014/07/16 (Wed) 11:38:56

悲しい事件でしたね…


ププ
212:mesa :

2014/07/16 (Wed) 23:08:57

悲しい事件は懲り懲りです
213:ミアータ :

2014/07/17 (Thu) 09:42:06

4周じゃないけど防衛なのでここでいいですかね
一応上げてみたので何かの参考にでも・・・
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLhbq6AA91k
214:mesa :

2014/07/19 (Sat) 17:53:20

なんとなく、まとめだした http://goo.gl/SdlN7c
215:ヒカル :

2014/07/19 (Sat) 20:07:46

人の動画見てると色々おもしろいの
216:mizuki :

2014/07/23 (Wed) 16:48:08

http://goo.gl/hwh9uY
色々体裁整えました
217:mizuki :

2014/07/23 (Wed) 16:48:23

貼るとこまちごた
218:mesa :

2014/08/09 (Sat) 23:45:54

今更だけど 襲来W3の順番  pic.twitter.com/mldM2sdjvN
219:mesa :

2014/09/20 (Sat) 21:26:59

侵入 各処理シート  信ぴょう性不明。https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1u_TYrMucWDG9UGqCmYL7eYXo2lOoX9qe0k5vQjCJvJY/pubhtml#

あとブルマンのwikiに侵入の項目ができてた。これ書いてるとき中身見えなかったけど(wikiって閲覧制限とかあった感?
220:mizuki :

2014/09/22 (Mon) 11:02:46

>>219
侵食核のパターンだね
でもあれね。今の課題は「いかに雑魚処理を早く進められるか」ってとこだよね
職配置も含めて再考してみようかねぇ

ただレベリングしたい人が多いから、職指定すると人集まらない苦悩あり
ゾンディ→BoHuに掃除 みたいな事が確立できればいけそうではあるよね
221:mesa :

2014/09/28 (Sun) 03:15:35

他のところのシートにあったので ワキ位置参考あったhttp://www61.atwiki.jp/bluemonday_ship04/pages/18.html

と言ってもないよう見てない。やるたいことが多いので_(:3」L)_
222:mizuki :

2014/10/10 (Fri) 10:33:56

10/13(月)23時からの予告襲来について久々の4周チャレンジをやる予定なので、
復習兼ねて立ち回りと職構成をおさらい。

職構成は各PT、FoTe*3、RaHu*1 or FoTe*2、TeRa*1、BoHu*1なのかなぁ
ラフォ軸で各PT一人はゾンディ担当がいた方が良さそうね

w1:前で処理、平和確定の場合は他塔のフォロー
w2:前処理。ダガン選手の華麗な突破だけ気を付けよう
w3:最初は前処理。第一弾湧きが終わったら一人バックして核とカルターゴ処理。グワでたらバーン
w4:基本はサッカーでいいとは思うけど、1湧き処理後二手に分かれて最終湧き地点でのリスキル狙い
  紫PT4名+おれとエロさんでいいと思う
w5:基本前処理。ラグネ落としだけ注意かな。ラグネ待機する人は各PT決めておいた方がいいと思う。
  あとラグネ落としに成功したらFoTe*1が同時湧きの雑魚にいって3人でラグネ処理。
w6:全員紫前待機でなんかうまい事やって。

こんな感じで多分余裕で行けそうな気がするんだけどいかがかしら?


223:mizuki :

2014/10/10 (Fri) 12:10:22

>>222
あ、あと全体の役割としてビブへのイルグラ枠があるので、ここはまたミアータさんとセイルさんに
任せる形になりそうですおー

あとはあれかな
もしニフタで来る人いるなら、それの使用タイミングだけかぶらないようにした方がいいかも
しれないですのぅ
224:ミアータ :

2014/12/04 (Thu) 02:41:41

折角だしってことで録画してみましたよ。
絶望XH2周目 http://youtu.be/ORbTDks5GPw
出現順とか変わってれば復習用に、と思いましたけどそのまんまですね。
単純に敵がタフいくらいなのでさほど見るところもないと思います。

うちは今回来ませんでしたけど、どうもラグネがやたら強いっぽいのでフォロー体制を作ったほうが良さそうですね。
これで12分ほどなので4周は狙えるとは思います。
狙うかどうかはみんなが乗り気になるか次第ですかねー。
225:mizuki :

2014/12/04 (Thu) 11:10:56

>>225
録画さんくす
実際やってみたけど敵の湧きとかは変わらないので火力が上がれば4周はいけそうではあるよね
しばらくはレベリングしながら強職出せる人多いと思うので、4周狙いはやっていく方向で
考えておきますね。
多分職構成は各PT:Ra1、近接1、TeFo1、FoTe1あたりがいいかもしれないですね。
ラフォ連発するよりゾンディ→サテのが殲滅早いかもと感じます。

あとクエスト終了時のリザルト確認で12位なのわかってるのに確認してみるミアータさんprpr
226:ミアータ :

2015/01/08 (Thu) 23:45:51

アップロード終わればここで見られると思います。
3周目
http://youtu.be/aweAd4Rl3lo
一応今回は限定公開
練習したいなあ
227:ミアータ :

2015/01/09 (Fri) 00:07:44

なんかミスったっぽい
こっちでいけるかしらhttp://youtu.be/h1rGK4lMz7I
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